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		<title>By: girl meets geek &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sexism against guys isn’t sexy, either.</title>
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		<dc:creator>girl meets geek &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sexism against guys isn’t sexy, either.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thegirl</title>
		<link>http://www.girlmeetsgeek.com/2010/07/13/sexism-isnt-sexy/comment-page-1/#comment-1076</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle- thanks so much for your reply. I&#039;m not as worried about the name of the shirts as I am with the bloody handprint and the women on the stripper pole. I think it&#039;s beyond a &#039;joke,&#039; and actually conjures images of violence. 

I want to, &#039;cut them slack,&#039; as I try not to take anything very seriously.  However, the images they chose for this shirt- speak louder than anything else. 

Thank you SO much for your opinion. And... I agree with you on those, &quot;boys are stupid,&quot; shirts. Sexism surely goes both ways. Excellent point!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle- thanks so much for your reply. I&#8217;m not as worried about the name of the shirts as I am with the bloody handprint and the women on the stripper pole. I think it&#8217;s beyond a &#8216;joke,&#8217; and actually conjures images of violence. </p>
<p>I want to, &#8216;cut them slack,&#8217; as I try not to take anything very seriously.  However, the images they chose for this shirt- speak louder than anything else. </p>
<p>Thank you SO much for your opinion. And&#8230; I agree with you on those, &#8220;boys are stupid,&#8221; shirts. Sexism surely goes both ways. Excellent point!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Hendrickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Hendrickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there.

Found you via Brazen Careerist and decided to check out your blog.

I just wanted to weigh in on this issue.

My understanding of the concept of the &quot;wife beater&quot; is that the term started as parody on a simple concept.  

Back in the 90s, Lifetime and other &quot;women&#039;s&quot; television stations would constantly air movies that seemed contradictory to their purpose of empowering women.  So many of them would be about women being abused by their husbands or boyfriends in one way or another.  Eventually the women would turn the tables on the men, be that by law suit or self-defense but it became a joke that all women ever had to face in life according to these shows was the reality of being beaten.  While it absolutely  IS an issue that women face, it&#039;s nowhere near the realm that lifetime painted it to be. The station&#039;s original movies became a joke.

It also became an in-joke that every time a man would be shown in a physically abusive situation with his woman on these shows, he would be wearing one of these tight white athletic shirts.

The shirts themselves were comfortable for men to wear, but because of their tightness, the point was to show how physically dominant the man was over the woman.  It was to make him look intimidating.

So thus, the shirts became known as &quot;wife beaters&quot; in male social circles.  It&#039;s not PC by any means, but frankly I think the intention behind it is far less sinister than you&#039;ve labeled them.

They&#039;re capitalizing on an in-joke from a decade ago, not advocating violence against women.

But, on the grounds that someone (such as yourself) or anyone else wouldn&#039;t KNOW the joke behind it, I would never wear a shirt with such a distasteful concept.

Still, I think you should cut these people some slack and not take it as them personally advocating violence against anyone.

It&#039;s no worse than this image being emblazoned on girl&#039;s shirts a few years ago:

http://purpleeagle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/lgst3241boys-are-stupid-throw-rocks-at-them-boys-are-stupid-poster.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there.</p>
<p>Found you via Brazen Careerist and decided to check out your blog.</p>
<p>I just wanted to weigh in on this issue.</p>
<p>My understanding of the concept of the &#8220;wife beater&#8221; is that the term started as parody on a simple concept.  </p>
<p>Back in the 90s, Lifetime and other &#8220;women&#8217;s&#8221; television stations would constantly air movies that seemed contradictory to their purpose of empowering women.  So many of them would be about women being abused by their husbands or boyfriends in one way or another.  Eventually the women would turn the tables on the men, be that by law suit or self-defense but it became a joke that all women ever had to face in life according to these shows was the reality of being beaten.  While it absolutely  IS an issue that women face, it&#8217;s nowhere near the realm that lifetime painted it to be. The station&#8217;s original movies became a joke.</p>
<p>It also became an in-joke that every time a man would be shown in a physically abusive situation with his woman on these shows, he would be wearing one of these tight white athletic shirts.</p>
<p>The shirts themselves were comfortable for men to wear, but because of their tightness, the point was to show how physically dominant the man was over the woman.  It was to make him look intimidating.</p>
<p>So thus, the shirts became known as &#8220;wife beaters&#8221; in male social circles.  It&#8217;s not PC by any means, but frankly I think the intention behind it is far less sinister than you&#8217;ve labeled them.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re capitalizing on an in-joke from a decade ago, not advocating violence against women.</p>
<p>But, on the grounds that someone (such as yourself) or anyone else wouldn&#8217;t KNOW the joke behind it, I would never wear a shirt with such a distasteful concept.</p>
<p>Still, I think you should cut these people some slack and not take it as them personally advocating violence against anyone.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no worse than this image being emblazoned on girl&#8217;s shirts a few years ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://purpleeagle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/lgst3241boys-are-stupid-throw-rocks-at-them-boys-are-stupid-poster.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://purpleeagle.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/lgst3241boys-are-stupid-throw-rocks-at-them-boys-are-stupid-poster.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ugh: Wife Beater Brand Is Purely Disgusting — MK Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ugh: Wife Beater Brand Is Purely Disgusting — MK Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thegirl</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that quote, thank you Albert.  We must never stop speaking up. Ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that quote, thank you Albert.  We must never stop speaking up. Ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Malaproposition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malaproposition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Hitler gets to the Pearly Gates and is stopped by St. Peter who says: &quot;Hitler!?!?! Where do you think you&#039;re going?&quot; Hitler replies: &quot;I thought I&#039;d get into Heaven.&quot; To which St. Peter responds: &quot;But you&#039;re responsible for the deaths of million of innocent Jews!&quot;. Hitler, thinks this over for a bit and calmly declares: &quot;No, no, no. You&#039;ve got it all wrong.&quot; He hands St. Peter a slip of paper that reads: &quot;Hitler doesn&#039;t support violence against Jews.&quot;  &quot;Ohhhh.&quot; St. Peter replies, &quot;I didn&#039;t read that disclaimer before. You&#039;re all set then, go right on in.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Hitler gets to the Pearly Gates and is stopped by St. Peter who says: &#8220;Hitler!?!?! Where do you think you&#8217;re going?&#8221; Hitler replies: &#8220;I thought I&#8217;d get into Heaven.&#8221; To which St. Peter responds: &#8220;But you&#8217;re responsible for the deaths of million of innocent Jews!&#8221;. Hitler, thinks this over for a bit and calmly declares: &#8220;No, no, no. You&#8217;ve got it all wrong.&#8221; He hands St. Peter a slip of paper that reads: &#8220;Hitler doesn&#8217;t support violence against Jews.&#8221;  &#8220;Ohhhh.&#8221; St. Peter replies, &#8220;I didn&#8217;t read that disclaimer before. You&#8217;re all set then, go right on in.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Opitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Opitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t need to know the brand or the business or the product. Why not ChildRapist? BabyBeater? ToddlerSmacker? InfantShaker? Or just plain -- WomanHater.

Of course not. Those words conjure up horrible, awful images.
But WifeBeater - that&#039;s something we can all laugh at, right?

Think again. 

True, there are some words that we try to diffuse by using them more often. But in this case, that does not apply. Ever.

I put the question to Avon on Twitter - I encourage the rest of you to do the same:

@AvonPRNewsflash  are your avon reps cool with violence against women? I&#039;m NOT! http://tinyurl.com/2d9oczk cc: @girlmeetsgeek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t need to know the brand or the business or the product. Why not ChildRapist? BabyBeater? ToddlerSmacker? InfantShaker? Or just plain &#8212; WomanHater.</p>
<p>Of course not. Those words conjure up horrible, awful images.<br />
But WifeBeater &#8211; that&#8217;s something we can all laugh at, right?</p>
<p>Think again. </p>
<p>True, there are some words that we try to diffuse by using them more often. But in this case, that does not apply. Ever.</p>
<p>I put the question to Avon on Twitter &#8211; I encourage the rest of you to do the same:</p>
<p>@AvonPRNewsflash  are your avon reps cool with violence against women? I&#8217;m NOT! <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2d9oczk" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2d9oczk</a> cc: @girlmeetsgeek</p>
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		<title>By: thegirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>thegirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you everyone for acknowledging this.  I think one quote applies: 

 &quot;The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.&quot; (Edmund Burke - requoted by Winston Churchill)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you everyone for acknowledging this.  I think one quote applies: </p>
<p> &#8220;The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.&#8221; (Edmund Burke &#8211; requoted by Winston Churchill)</p>
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		<title>By: Kakie Fitzsimmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kakie Fitzsimmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have volunteered in the area of domestic violence and the idea of having a brand like this makes me sick. &quot;Domestic Violence is the Leading Cause of Injury to Women Between the Ages of 15 and 44 in the United States - More Than Car Accidents, Muggings, and Rapes Combined.&quot;  Read more at the link below

 &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/2vHNKq&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/2vHNKq&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have volunteered in the area of domestic violence and the idea of having a brand like this makes me sick. &#8220;Domestic Violence is the Leading Cause of Injury to Women Between the Ages of 15 and 44 in the United States &#8211; More Than Car Accidents, Muggings, and Rapes Combined.&#8221;  Read more at the link below</p>
<p> <a href="http://bit.ly/2vHNKq" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2vHNKq</a></p>
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		<title>By: PikaPikaChick</title>
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		<dc:creator>PikaPikaChick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t fathom how anyone can have such a giant disconnect in the mind between &quot;wife beater&quot; and &quot;we don&#039;t support spousal abuse.&quot;  The mind boggles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t fathom how anyone can have such a giant disconnect in the mind between &#8220;wife beater&#8221; and &#8220;we don&#8217;t support spousal abuse.&#8221;  The mind boggles.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yuck. That a company would find this name &quot;cool&quot; and &quot;trendy&quot; is disgusting. Exactly who do they think is going to buy this stuff? My guess? Mostly teenage boys who find abusive comments and &quot;bitch-slapping&quot; funny.

Way to be cool... not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yuck. That a company would find this name &#8220;cool&#8221; and &#8220;trendy&#8221; is disgusting. Exactly who do they think is going to buy this stuff? My guess? Mostly teenage boys who find abusive comments and &#8220;bitch-slapping&#8221; funny.</p>
<p>Way to be cool&#8230; not.</p>
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		<title>By: thegirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>thegirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 05:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &#039;greenlighted&#039; your comment to show the world your voice and perspective.  Maybe it&#039;s time to let the company speak for itself.  How many profits have been given to local charities? (Have the charities accepted the profits?)  Just because it&#039;s a business, doesn&#039;t mean the business owners are not at fault for perpetuating a disturbing trend.  I&#039;d like to share a few statistics with you, Lisa.

&quot;Around the world at least one woman in every three has been beaten, coerced into sex, or otherwise abused in her lifetime. Most often the abuser is a member of her own family.&quot;

&quot;Physical violence is estimated to occur in 4 to 6 million intimate relationships each year in the United States.&quot; 

&quot;Nearly one in every three adult women experiences at least one physical assault by a partner during adulthood. Approximately four million American women experience a serious assault by an intimate partner during a 12-month period.&quot; 

&quot;It is estimated that 2 million to 4 million US women are assaulted by a domestic partner every year.&quot; 

&quot;Twelve million women (25% of the female population) will be abused in their lifetime.&quot; 

&quot;Up to 35% of women and 22% of men presenting to the emergency department have experienced domestic violence.&quot;  (Source: http://bit.ly/aIi9h9) 

The tees could be made of high quality materials.  What affects the brand is the message: That it&#039;s okay to make money off the objectification of women and red &#039;handprints.&#039;  I&#039;d love the owner&#039;s perspective. Maybe they have a compelling reason as to why they chose strippers, bloodied handprints and the very name that is associated with spousal violence.  
 
From 2000-2003 I spoke about violence against women in Minnesota and neighboring states.  After being raped and seeing violence firsthand, I have never stopped speaking out when I saw complete carelessness in companies and individuals.  

Thanks for your input!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I &#8216;greenlighted&#8217; your comment to show the world your voice and perspective.  Maybe it&#8217;s time to let the company speak for itself.  How many profits have been given to local charities? (Have the charities accepted the profits?)  Just because it&#8217;s a business, doesn&#8217;t mean the business owners are not at fault for perpetuating a disturbing trend.  I&#8217;d like to share a few statistics with you, Lisa.</p>
<p>&#8220;Around the world at least one woman in every three has been beaten, coerced into sex, or otherwise abused in her lifetime. Most often the abuser is a member of her own family.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Physical violence is estimated to occur in 4 to 6 million intimate relationships each year in the United States.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Nearly one in every three adult women experiences at least one physical assault by a partner during adulthood. Approximately four million American women experience a serious assault by an intimate partner during a 12-month period.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;It is estimated that 2 million to 4 million US women are assaulted by a domestic partner every year.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Twelve million women (25% of the female population) will be abused in their lifetime.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Up to 35% of women and 22% of men presenting to the emergency department have experienced domestic violence.&#8221;  (Source: <a href="http://bit.ly/aIi9h9" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aIi9h9</a>) </p>
<p>The tees could be made of high quality materials.  What affects the brand is the message: That it&#8217;s okay to make money off the objectification of women and red &#8216;handprints.&#8217;  I&#8217;d love the owner&#8217;s perspective. Maybe they have a compelling reason as to why they chose strippers, bloodied handprints and the very name that is associated with spousal violence.  </p>
<p>From 2000-2003 I spoke about violence against women in Minnesota and neighboring states.  After being raped and seeing violence firsthand, I have never stopped speaking out when I saw complete carelessness in companies and individuals.  </p>
<p>Thanks for your input!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Perchesky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Perchesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 05:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This person doesn&#039;t know me and doesn&#039;t know the people starting up this business. She ( I assume) doesn&#039;t know what she&#039;s talking about.  The disclaimer says it.  I do not support violence against ANYONB and neither do these wonderful people who are simply trying to get a business off the ground.  Slandering my name and my hobby is not appropriate  and completely out of line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This person doesn&#8217;t know me and doesn&#8217;t know the people starting up this business. She ( I assume) doesn&#8217;t know what she&#8217;s talking about.  The disclaimer says it.  I do not support violence against ANYONB and neither do these wonderful people who are simply trying to get a business off the ground.  Slandering my name and my hobby is not appropriate  and completely out of line.</p>
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